Well, I have to agree with Manny on the Vision. That thing fell off the top of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.
As for the CB, the clean, simple styling is what I like about it. It's no secret that when Honda designed the original CB750 they took most of their design cues from the British bikes of the late 60's. To me a lot of modern bikes just look "over-styled." Like they came out of some Japanese Manga comic, with all these weird and uneccessary angles and corners.
As for boring, to me the most boring thing out there is the generic "cruiser" bike. I get it, it's a classic design but IMO it's been overplayed. I guess that's one reason I'm not enamored of the new Thunderbird. Looks too much like a generic cruiser, except for the engine.
Martin
From: Curtis Graves <ikonoklass@gmail.com>
To: emrat@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [emrat:2012] I know it's not a Triumph...
To: emrat@googlegroups.com
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Or it could just be a misspelling of "Vomit."
On Dec 22, 2012 7:28 PM, "Manuel Baca" <mjbaca900@yahoo.com> wrote:
-- --I'm guessing Victory settled on "Vision" after they decided "Avert Your Eyes or You'll be Sorry" was too long to put on a name badge!
From: Anthony Sean Donnelly <sean1881@gmail.com>
To: emrat@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [emrat:2009] I know it's not a Triumph...
--Agreed! I always wondered how much peyote one has to smoke to appreciate the Vision that Victory had in mind. I have to agree with the CB as well. While I overall like the look and the idea, I just don't like it enough to pay that much for it enough to pay that kind of money for one.- SeanOn Dec 22, 2012, at 6:05 PM, Manuel <mjbaca900@yahoo.com> wrote:If you mean the guy that finds it ironic that Victory names the bike after the one thing I wouldn't mind losing temporarily in the bike's presence then yes; I'm the nut job.Don't misunderstand me about the CB. I would gladly own one if one was given to me or if I was in the market for a nice $2k bike at 5x the price :)Sent from my Galaxy S®III
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Date:
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Aren't you the same nutjob who couldn't appreciate the subtle beauty of the Victory Vision?On Dec 21, 2012 2:06 PM, "Manuel Baca" <mjbaca900@yahoo.com> wrote:I don't want to sound inflammatory but, I don't get it. I'm obviously someone that appreciates a retro-styled bike, but I just find that to be the most plain-looking bike I have every seen.
To me, it seems like something one would ride, until they could afford the bike they really wanted. Humbug, I says...From: "weverman@comcast.net" <weverman@comcast.net>
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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [emrat:2003] I know it's not a Triumph...
--Martin; we can all be forgiven for mooning after non-Triumphs. Take S-Steve for instance. We can all commiserate, when under the influence, he can't decide whether to try to start his old Hog, or hit it with a sledge hammer! And since I read a 1966 Hot Rod Magazine test of the 883 XLCH Sportster, I have always liked their looks (maybe S-Steve should hit me with the with that hammer).I assume you a talking about the Honda CB1100. I agree, with the exception of the GIGANTO 1970's DOT taillight and winkers. Search the web for the Europe and Japan only 1100 Supersport. Talk about a Moriwaki TTF1 look-a-like! E-Steve would be drooling!Cheers, Wayne E.P.S. - how's the sidehack search going?
From: "Martin Albright" <martinjmpr@yahoo.com>
To: emrat@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 4:45:15 PM
Subject: [emrat:1997] I know it's not a Triumph...--But I have to say: WOW!http://powersports.honda.com/2013/cb1100/360.aspxIt's no secret that HD has been cashing in on the "nostalgia" market for decades. They specialize in selling 40+ professionals the bike they could never afford when they were young. In many ways, Triumph does the same thing with their classic bikes.Now for those of you who don't know, I have always been a huge fan of the "Universal Japanese Motorcycle." This was the type of bike that was common from the early 70's (late 60's if you want to be picky) through the mid 80's. UJMs typically had 4 cylinder engines and a "standard" (not cruiser, not sportbike) stance.Well, I started riding in 1982 so the bike I always lusted after was the classic UJM of the early 80s. I've loved them for years and have owned several (heck my user name on the TriumphRAT forums is "UJMRider.")I kept wondering if any manufacturer was going to try to make a modern version of the bike I dreamed of when I was 20, and it appears that the anwer is "yes."This new Honda echoes back to the CB750 of 1969, but really what it looks like is the "mature" UJM of the early 80s. DOHC, disc brakes and alloy wheels were common at the end of the UJM era, not at the beginning. What surprised me most is that, like my Scrambler, this Honda is air cooled! (Of course it's EFI, that's pretty much a given these days.)I love my Triumph, but oh, man, this one's got my brain buzzing, for sure.Of course, the Japanese have tried to sell big-bore standard bikes in the US before and they've always gotten burned. In the land where HD is the 800 lb gorilla on the market, can the new Honda make a place for itself? Only time will tell. I do hope they sell enough of these that they appear on the used market soon!Martin
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