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Monday, 25 March 2019

Re: [emrat:11260] Utah did something cool

Rep. Brooks receives a "Harrumph" from this motorcyclist! Well done, Sir. And thanks for sharing Iron Butt!

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On Mar 25, 2019, at 10:22 PM, Steve Smith <shmitty74@gmail.com> wrote:

And Then There Were Two
Motorcycle.com  /  John Burns

Utah Legalizes Lane Filtering

March 22 was a busy day for Utah Governor Gary Herbert, who signed a total of 163 bills, according to a statement from the governor's office and ksl.com, bringing the total number of bills passed by the 2019 Utah Legislature so far to 187.

After wrestling with bills about abortion, medical marijuana vis a vis banking, human trafficking, regulation of trampoline parks, establishment of a Navajo Code Talker's Day, etc., etc… signing HB149 into law was probably relatively stress-free for the governor, but possibly a giant step for Utah motorcyclists and maybe even for the rest of the US?

Sponsored by state Rep. Walt Brooks (R-St. George), HB149 permits motorcyclists to move to the front of waiting traffic at intersections on roads with a speed limit of 45 mph or less. Brooks, who claims he's twice been the victim of rear-end collisions while on his motorcycle, highlighted the safety of the practice. His Bill had the support of the Utah Highway Patrol and the AMA.

The cogent part of SB149 is:

(5) An individual may engage in lane filtering only when the following conditions
384     exist:
385          (a) the individual is operating a motorcycle;
386          (b) the individual is on a roadway divided into two or more adjacent traffic lanes in the
387     same direction of travel;
388          (c) the individual is on a roadway with a speed limit of 45 miles per hour or less;
389          (d) the vehicle being overtaken in the same lane is stopped;
390          (e) the motorcycle is traveling at a speed of 15 miles per hour or less; and
391          (f) the movement may be made safely.

The rest of the thing is here, offered as a public service to dissuade you from embarking on a career as a lawmaker if you were considering it.

The 45-mph limit means splitting on freeways is out, but with Utah's biggest city's population of 200,000 (Salt Lake City), maybe that's not a big deal? Traffic does get backed up on SLC's main arteries at rush hour, and being able to filter through will be a boon to Utah's big-city motorcyclists as well as good for their safety.

What's relegated many states' lane-splitting efforts to the dustbin of history is usually a wish on the part of legislatures to attach a helmet-requirement bill onto them, a thing that has the AMA immediately pulling its support. But that did not happen this time in Utah – even stranger given Utah's unique helmet laws, which are explained at this personal injury website:

Utah adds a few wrinkles to its motorcycle helmet statute (which you can find online at Utah Code section 41-6a-1505). The first says that anyone who is issued a moving violation while on a motorcycle will be granted an $8 waiver of any resulting fine if the person was over 18 and was wearing a helmet at the time they were ticketed. (Only those under 18 are required to wear a helmet.) In other words, it's a small financial incentive to wear a helmet even when Utah law doesn't require you to do so.

The second wrinkle in Utah's motorcycle helmet law would come into play if you got into a motorcycle accident and filed a personal injury lawsuit against another driver. If you weren't wearing a helmet at the time of the accident, in many states that fact could affect your legal position, since failure to wear a helmet could be considered negligence, especially if you're seeking compensation for head injuries.

But in Utah, the motorcycle helmet statute specifically says that this kind of evidence is not in play in an injury lawsuit: "The failure to wear protective headgear: (a) does not constitute contributory or comparative negligence on the part of a person seeking recovery for injuries; and (b) may not be introduced as evidence in any civil litigation on the issue of negligence, injuries, or the mitigation of damages."

In any case, once the cars become accustomed to seeing motorcycles cruise slowly past their windows occasionally (and the cars will have to do that on their own, since Utah's bill allocated not a dime for public education), the hope is that they'll eventually realize that motorcycles are not a threat. Well, most of us anyway. And once the camel's nose is in the tent, the rest of him will shortly follow. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

Dist. 75 Rep. Walt Brooks, R, St. George

Congratulations to Rep. Brooks and Utah for doing the right thing, and making the Beehive state the second in the US to allow lane-sharing, er, filtering. Good luck.

The post And Then There Were Two appeared first on Motorcycle.com.

Original Article: https://www.motorcycle.com/features/and-then-there-were-two.html

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[emrat:11259] Utah did something cool

And Then There Were Two

Motorcycle.com / John Burns

Utah Legalizes Lane Filtering

March 22 was a busy day for Utah Governor Gary Herbert, who signed a total of 163 bills, according to a statement from the governor's office and ksl.com, bringing the total number of bills passed by the 2019 Utah Legislature so far to 187.

After wrestling with bills about abortion, medical marijuana vis a vis banking, human trafficking, regulation of trampoline parks, establishment of a Navajo Code Talker's Day, etc., etc… signing HB149 into law was probably relatively stress-free for the governor, but possibly a giant step for Utah motorcyclists and maybe even for the rest of the US?

Sponsored by state Rep. Walt Brooks (R-St. George), HB149 permits motorcyclists to move to the front of waiting traffic at intersections on roads with a speed limit of 45 mph or less. Brooks, who claims he's twice been the victim of rear-end collisions while on his motorcycle, highlighted the safety of the practice. His Bill had the support of the Utah Highway Patrol and the AMA.

The cogent part of SB149 is:

(5) An individual may engage in lane filtering only when the following conditions
384     exist:
385          (a) the individual is operating a motorcycle;
386          (b) the individual is on a roadway divided into two or more adjacent traffic lanes in the
387     same direction of travel;
388          (c) the individual is on a roadway with a speed limit of 45 miles per hour or less;
389          (d) the vehicle being overtaken in the same lane is stopped;
390          (e) the motorcycle is traveling at a speed of 15 miles per hour or less; and
391          (f) the movement may be made safely.

The rest of the thing is here, offered as a public service to dissuade you from embarking on a career as a lawmaker if you were considering it.

The 45-mph limit means splitting on freeways is out, but with Utah's biggest city's population of 200,000 (Salt Lake City), maybe that's not a big deal? Traffic does get backed up on SLC's main arteries at rush hour, and being able to filter through will be a boon to Utah's big-city motorcyclists as well as good for their safety.

What's relegated many states' lane-splitting efforts to the dustbin of history is usually a wish on the part of legislatures to attach a helmet-requirement bill onto them, a thing that has the AMA immediately pulling its support. But that did not happen this time in Utah – even stranger given Utah's unique helmet laws, which are explained at this personal injury website:

Utah adds a few wrinkles to its motorcycle helmet statute (which you can find online at Utah Code section 41-6a-1505). The first says that anyone who is issued a moving violation while on a motorcycle will be granted an $8 waiver of any resulting fine if the person was over 18 and was wearing a helmet at the time they were ticketed. (Only those under 18 are required to wear a helmet.) In other words, it's a small financial incentive to wear a helmet even when Utah law doesn't require you to do so.

The second wrinkle in Utah's motorcycle helmet law would come into play if you got into a motorcycle accident and filed a personal injury lawsuit against another driver. If you weren't wearing a helmet at the time of the accident, in many states that fact could affect your legal position, since failure to wear a helmet could be considered negligence, especially if you're seeking compensation for head injuries.

But in Utah, the motorcycle helmet statute specifically says that this kind of evidence is not in play in an injury lawsuit: "The failure to wear protective headgear: (a) does not constitute contributory or comparative negligence on the part of a person seeking recovery for injuries; and (b) may not be introduced as evidence in any civil litigation on the issue of negligence, injuries, or the mitigation of damages."

In any case, once the cars become accustomed to seeing motorcycles cruise slowly past their windows occasionally (and the cars will have to do that on their own, since Utah's bill allocated not a dime for public education), the hope is that they'll eventually realize that motorcycles are not a threat. Well, most of us anyway. And once the camel's nose is in the tent, the rest of him will shortly follow. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

Dist. 75 Rep. Walt Brooks, R, St. George

Congratulations to Rep. Brooks and Utah for doing the right thing, and making the Beehive state the second in the US to allow lane-sharing, er, filtering. Good luck.

The post And Then There Were Two appeared first on Motorcycle.com.

Original Article: https://www.motorcycle.com/features/and-then-there-were-two.html

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Re: [emrat:11258] Fwd: German technology ... watch to the end

Aah, your reasoning has become clear.

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 09:57 Norman Wright <lowrtax@gmail.com> wrote:

No, a Brit fails to see the dangers in the "correct" traffic lane.

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 9:34 AM Steve Smith <shmitty74@gmail.com> wrote:
While there are many riders drinking the BMW Koolaid, Norm appears to be mainlining it.

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 09:24 Norman Wright <lowrtax@gmail.com> wrote:
While the speaker is German, the rider must be a Brit.

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Oops !

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Re: [emrat:11257] Fwd: German technology ... watch to the end

No, a Brit fails to see the dangers in the "correct" traffic lane.

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 9:34 AM Steve Smith <shmitty74@gmail.com> wrote:

While there are many riders drinking the BMW Koolaid, Norm appears to be mainlining it.

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 09:24 Norman Wright <lowrtax@gmail.com> wrote:
While the speaker is German, the rider must be a Brit.

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:30 AM LARRY POAGUE <n2xsvhpmcs@msn.com> wrote:

Oops !

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Re: [emrat:11256] Fwd: German technology ... watch to the end

While there are many riders drinking the BMW Koolaid, Norm appears to be mainlining it.

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 09:24 Norman Wright <lowrtax@gmail.com> wrote:

While the speaker is German, the rider must be a Brit.

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:30 AM LARRY POAGUE <n2xsvhpmcs@msn.com> wrote:

Oops !

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Re: [emrat:11255] Fwd: German technology ... watch to the end

While the speaker is German, the rider must be a Brit.

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Oops !

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Re: [emrat:11254] Fwd: German technology ... watch to the end

Technology over ridden by wetware once again....

-Jim

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 12:13 PM 'Annette' via EMRAT <emrat@googlegroups.com> wrote:

OUCH!!! Didn't see that coming!

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Saturday, 23 March 2019

[emrat:11254] Re: April presentation

Maybe someone from the Motorcycle Rider Training Center can come out and do a presentation as part of their Host-an-Event series.

Host an Event

On Friday, March 22, 2019 at 9:58:06 AM UTC-6, MJBaca900 wrote:

Hello all,

I am looking for an April presentation. I reached out to Hear No Evil and haven't heard back. Also trying to locate the Bike Cover company, but I can't find any contact info for them. Thanks,

Manuel

Re: [emrat:11252] April presentation

I nominate the worst biker movie ever, Torque! It is a horrid movie with a plot that is beyond believable, has stunts that even make Bollywood says, " No way anyone believes that."

I am convinced early in production the director said, well this is going to suck, so let's go big!

I recommend watching in a group so everyone can laugh along.

Jim Kerick

sent from telegraph

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019, 16:28 WAYNE EVERMAN <weverman@comcast.net wrote:

got lots movie! EWB

On March 22, 2019 at 4:12 PM Curtis Graves <ikonoklass@gmail.com> wrote:

We could just sit around and shoot the shit or watch a movie.

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 4:02 PM Norman Wright < lowrtax@gmail.com> wrote:
Indeed they are gone. They had a rep last year at Top of the Rockies selling out their remaining inventory.

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019, 12:06 PM Tomas Rohlander < trohlander@gmail.com> wrote:
Manuel,
I bought a bike Cover from them a couple of years ago and I still have their number and I called and their number is disconnected and there is no website available anymore so I think they are not in business anymore.

Tomas

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Hello all,

I am looking for an April presentation. I reached out to Hear No Evil and haven't heard back. Also trying to locate the Bike Cover company, but I can't find any contact info for them. Thanks,

Manuel

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[emrat:11251] Re: "Spring Fever" ride Saturday 3/23?

If anyone else is planning on riding I'm going to push the start time back by 30 minutes to let it warm up a bit. I. Should be at the Bandimere Conoco by 9:00 or so.

Martin

On Saturday, March 23, 2019, Jim Baker <emeksv@gmail.com> wrote:

I am, thanks for asking. It was a ~15 mph low side, oil on the road. I sprained my ankle pretty badly and have road rash on my knee, but am otherwise undamaged.

The bike is pretty ok too. Barring bad news, the damage is a bar end, a shift lever, a crash bar and a turn signal. Maybe $500-600. Crash bars are totally worth the money, by the way. It would have been much more expensive to replace those black pipes or transmission housing.

Jim Baker
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Sent via mobile device

On Mar 22, 2019, at 3:49 PM, Martin Richard <martinarmy1961@gmail.com> wrote:

Yikes! Sorry to hear about your spill, hope you're OK.

Martin

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 2:22 PM Jim Baker <emeksv@gmail.com> wrote:
I would love to go but I spilled my Triumph last week; it's still laid up at the shop. My only bike at the moment is a creaky old Honda that I don't trust to make it *to* Morrison, much less back :)

Keep asking. It has to get warmer sometime.

Jim

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On Mar 22, 2019, at 11:27 AM, Martin Richard <martinarmy1961@gmail.com> wrote:

Anyone else have "spring fever" and want to get out and ride? Looks like tomorrow will be the nicer of the weekend days. I'll be at the Conoco in Morrison between 8:30 and 9:00 if anyone wants to go on a ride, I think we'll go up North - Northeast.

Martin

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Re: [emrat:11250] "Spring Fever" ride Saturday 3/23?

I am, thanks for asking. It was a ~15 mph low side, oil on the road. I sprained my ankle pretty badly and have road rash on my knee, but am otherwise undamaged.

The bike is pretty ok too. Barring bad news, the damage is a bar end, a shift lever, a crash bar and a turn signal. Maybe $500-600. Crash bars are totally worth the money, by the way. It would have been much more expensive to replace those black pipes or transmission housing.

Jim Baker

770.356.9209

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On Mar 22, 2019, at 3:49 PM, Martin Richard <martinarmy1961@gmail.com> wrote:

Yikes! Sorry to hear about your spill, hope you're OK.

Martin

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 2:22 PM Jim Baker <emeksv@gmail.com> wrote:
I would love to go but I spilled my Triumph last week; it's still laid up at the shop. My only bike at the moment is a creaky old Honda that I don't trust to make it *to* Morrison, much less back :)

Keep asking. It has to get warmer sometime.

Jim

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On Mar 22, 2019, at 11:27 AM, Martin Richard <martinarmy1961@gmail.com> wrote:

Anyone else have "spring fever" and want to get out and ride? Looks like tomorrow will be the nicer of the weekend days. I'll be at the Conoco in Morrison between 8:30 and 9:00 if anyone wants to go on a ride, I think we'll go up North - Northeast.

Martin

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Friday, 22 March 2019

Re: [emrat:11249] "Spring Fever" ride Saturday 3/23?

Martin Richard

Unable to make it tomorrow,however,if you still intend to ride Saturday week to the BMAC meeting,let me know so we can meet up somewhere,weather permitting.Have a good ride tomorrow

E-Steve

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Subject: Re: [emrat:11243] "Spring Fever" ride Saturday 3/23?

Yikes! Sorry to hear about your spill, hope you're OK.

Martin

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 2:22 PM Jim Baker <emeksv@gmail.com> wrote:

I would love to go but I spilled my Triumph last week; it's still laid up at the shop. My only bike at the moment is a creaky old Honda that I don't trust to make it *to* Morrison, much less back :)

Keep asking. It has to get warmer sometime.

Jim

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On Mar 22, 2019, at 11:27 AM, Martin Richard <martinarmy1961@gmail.com> wrote:

Anyone else have "spring fever" and want to get out and ride? Looks like tomorrow will be the nicer of the weekend days. I'll be at the Conoco in Morrison between 8:30 and 9:00 if anyone wants to go on a ride, I think we'll go up North - Northeast.

Martin

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