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Thursday 31 July 2014

[emrat:5331] Red Bull Indianapolis MotoGP Grand Prix

For this year's adventure Denise and I will traveling to the Red Bull Indianapolis Grand Prix. We will be taking a leisurely route to Indianapolis traveling through Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas, Tennessee and Kentucky.

During our travels we will be using a SPOT Satellite GPS Messenger which will allow people to follow our movements in real time. Additionally, we will have a SPOT adventures web site which will allow us to share our tracks, photos, stories and updates of our adventure with you.

Below you will find the links to our SPOT and SPOT adventures pages for this summer's adventure.

SPOT

http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0IgHdqkbpLFemqtygEscdCgfSFP5IlYYs

SPOT adventures
http://www.findmespot.com/spotadventures/index.php/view_adventure?tripid=332204

Denise & Bob Wendl

[The Network] Fwd: CPIN: Street's Hope has openings!

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From: Meg Allen <mega@caoden.org>
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 15:20:18 -0600
Subject: CPIN: Street's Hope has openings!

Good Morning,

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StreetsHopeApplication2014.docx
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Wednesday 30 July 2014

Re: [emrat:5330] Its not a motorcycle but cool none the less

Saw a TV show on the Pur Blanc; a cool 25 MILLION pounds sterling, out the door! Wayne E.

From: "Doc" <docmurdoch@comcast.net>
To: "Everman, Wayne" <emrat@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 3:51:10 PM
Subject: [emrat:5325] Its not a motorcycle but cool none the less

https://autos.yahoo.com/news/bugatti-veyron-super-sport-hits-246-mph-public-163004350.html

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Re: [emrat:5329] This just in ... .

Newest/Flashiest usually wins at least once. S3 has done it 3 times. Wayne E.

From: "Curtis Graves" <ikonoklass@gmail.com>
To: "Everman, Wayne" <emrat@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 4:13:10 PM
Subject: [emrat:5325] This just in ... .

BMW wins Best Standard for S1000R. Triumph used to compete in that category with my own beloved Speed Triple.

Re: [emrat:5328] tiger 800 heat

Or would that be "made redundant"?! Wayne E.

From: "Deb Sauer" <dsauer608@gmail.com>
To: "Everman, Wayne" <emrat@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 4:46:53 PM
Subject: Re: [emrat:5328] tiger 800 heat

No doubt! They're all racing for 2nd these days...

On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 3:25:51 PM UTC-6, ikonoklass wrote:

I would have, but I only follow MotoGP, and I won't be doing that for much longer, as Mr. Marquez has rendered everyone else obsolete.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------

From: Triumph68T120R via EMRAT

Date:07/30/2014 12:54 PM (GMT-07:00)

To: em...@googlegroups.com,em...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [emrat:5322] tiger 800 heat

Did you report Triumph winning the Daytona 200 this year on a 675R? Maybe I missed it...:-)

Bob

From: 'ikonoklass' via EMRAT

Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 12:44 PM

To: Triumph68T120R via EMRAT

Reply To: em...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [emrat:5319] tiger 800 heat

Rest assured, when Triumph wins an award, I will report it immediately. However, since Indian already won best cruiser and BMW best sport-tourer, Triumph may come up dry this year.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------

From: Triumph68T120R via EMRAT

Date:07/29/2014 5:13 PM (GMT-07:00)

To: em...@googlegroups.com,em...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [emrat:5310] tiger 800 heat

Hmmmmm...I'm confused. I thought this was a Riders Association of Triumph Forum EM/RAT, sponsored by Erico Motorsports a Triumph dealer. Did something change that I'm not aware of? ‎Are we now sponsored by Denver BMW or Foothills? :-)

Bob

From: Curtis Graves

Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 5:03 PM

To: em...@googlegroups.com

Reply To: em...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [emrat:5309] tiger 800 heat

RT just won Best Sport Touring bike (Cycle World).

On Jul 29, 2014 12:29 PM, "Jjtmcd via EMRAT" <em...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

The main reason I lusted after a BMW RT when I had my Triumph Trophy 900 was the heat. Triumph has had a tradition of ignoring rider thermal comfort of late. I remember Huc having to add thermal shields under his seat with one of the Sprints. So that was an "even at speed" heat issue. I stewed on the Trophy more times than I'd like to admit although that were more an issue when traffic slowed.

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Re: [emrat:5328] tiger 800 heat

No doubt! They're all racing for 2nd these days...

On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 3:25:51 PM UTC-6, ikonoklass wrote:

I would have, but I only follow MotoGP, and I won't be doing that for much longer, as Mr. Marquez has rendered everyone else obsolete.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: Triumph68T120R via EMRAT
Date:07/30/2014 12:54 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: em...@googlegroups.com,em...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [emrat:5322] tiger 800 heat

Did you report Triumph winning the Daytona 200 this year on a 675R? Maybe I missed it...:-)

Bob

From: 'ikonoklass' via EMRAT
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 12:44 PM
To: Triumph68T120R via EMRAT
Reply To: em...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [emrat:5319] tiger 800 heat

Rest assured, when Triumph wins an award, I will report it immediately. However, since Indian already won best cruiser and BMW best sport-tourer, Triumph may come up dry this year.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: Triumph68T120R via EMRAT
Date:07/29/2014 5:13 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: em...@googlegroups.com,em...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [emrat:5310] tiger 800 heat

Hmmmmm...I'm confused. I thought this was a Riders Association of Triumph Forum EM/RAT, sponsored by Erico Motorsports a Triumph dealer. Did something change that I'm not aware of? ‎Are we now sponsored by Denver BMW or Foothills? :-)

Bob

From: Curtis Graves
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 5:03 PM
To: em...@googlegroups.com
Reply To: em...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [emrat:5309] tiger 800 heat

RT just won Best Sport Touring bike (Cycle World).

On Jul 29, 2014 12:29 PM, "Jjtmcd via EMRAT" <em...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
The main reason I lusted after a BMW RT when I had my Triumph Trophy 900 was the heat. Triumph has had a tradition of ignoring rider thermal comfort of late. I remember Huc having to add thermal shields under his seat with one of the Sprints. So that was an "even at speed" heat issue. I stewed on the Trophy more times than I'd like to admit although that were more an issue when traffic slowed.
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Re: [emrat:5326] tiger 800 heat

I would have, but I only follow MotoGP, and I won't be doing that for much longer, as Mr. Marquez has rendered everyone else obsolete.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------

From: Triumph68T120R via EMRAT

Date:07/30/2014 12:54 PM (GMT-07:00)

To: emrat@googlegroups.com,emrat@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [emrat:5322] tiger 800 heat

Did you report Triumph winning the Daytona 200 this year on a 675R? Maybe I missed it...:-)

Bob

From: 'ikonoklass' via EMRAT

Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 12:44 PM

To: Triumph68T120R via EMRAT

Reply To: emrat@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [emrat:5319] tiger 800 heat

Rest assured, when Triumph wins an award, I will report it immediately. However, since Indian already won best cruiser and BMW best sport-tourer, Triumph may come up dry this year.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------

From: Triumph68T120R via EMRAT

Date:07/29/2014 5:13 PM (GMT-07:00)

To: emrat@googlegroups.com,emrat@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [emrat:5310] tiger 800 heat

Hmmmmm...I'm confused. I thought this was a Riders Association of Triumph Forum EM/RAT, sponsored by Erico Motorsports a Triumph dealer. Did something change that I'm not aware of? ‎Are we now sponsored by Denver BMW or Foothills? :-)

Bob

From: Curtis Graves

Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 5:03 PM

To: emrat@googlegroups.com

Reply To: emrat@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [emrat:5309] tiger 800 heat

RT just won Best Sport Touring bike (Cycle World).

On Jul 29, 2014 12:29 PM, "Jjtmcd via EMRAT" <emrat@googlegroups.com> wrote:

The main reason I lusted after a BMW RT when I had my Triumph Trophy 900 was the heat. Triumph has had a tradition of ignoring rider thermal comfort of late. I remember Huc having to add thermal shields under his seat with one of the Sprints. So that was an "even at speed" heat issue. I stewed on the Trophy more times than I'd like to admit although that were more an issue when traffic slowed.
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[emrat:5325] This just in ... .

BMW wins Best Standard for S1000R. Triumph used to compete in that category with my own beloved Speed Triple.

[emrat:5325] Its not a motorcycle but cool none the less

https://autos.yahoo.com/news/bugatti-veyron-super-sport-hits-246-mph-public-163004350.html

Fwd: [emrat:5323] tiger 800 heat

From: weverman@comcast.net
To: "ikonoklass" <ikonoklass@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:53:52 PM
Subject: Re: [emrat:5317] tiger 800 heat

I must have had a tinge of pity for Ironbutt Steve's panhead! Wayne E.

From: "ikonoklass" <ikonoklass@yahoo.com>
To: weverman@comcast.net, "Everman, Wayne" <emrat@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:45:27 PM
Subject: Re: [emrat:5317] tiger 800 heat

I prefer "mercilessly."

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------

From: weverman@comcast.net

Date:07/30/2014 12:40 PM (GMT-07:00)

To: "Everman, Wayne"

Subject: Re: [emrat:5317] tiger 800 heat

We (EMRAT) proudly accept all brands of motorcycles to our meetings and rides, with the intent of trashing them verbally with equality to all (except Harleys, which we trash unmercifully!) Wayne E.

From: "Everman, Wayne" <emrat@googlegroups.com>
To: "Everman, Wayne" <emrat@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:04:54 AM
Subject: Re: [emrat:5315] tiger 800 heat

In a message dated 7/30/2014 8:43:15 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
emrat@googlegroups.com writes:

> Hmmmmm...I'm confused. I thought this was a Riders Association of Triumph
> Forum EM/RAT, sponsored by Erico Motorsports a Triumph dealer. Did
> something change that I'm not aware of? ?Are we now sponsored by Denver BMW or
> Foothills? :-)
>
>
> Bob
>
I'm not sure if this comment was tongue in cheek or genuinely expressing
your feelings about any brand other than Triumph being discussed on this
forum? Many of us have ridden, owned and still own bikes beside our Triumphs.
Should we refrain from mentioning any other brand? Assume that Triumph has
created the perfect line of motorcycles and that all others are garbage? Sorry
but my motorcycles didn't come with blinders that keep me from looking at any
other brand or technology that might be out there. If that's an issue than
let me sign myself out.

John J. McDonough, FMP
3to5 Facilitator
the Crankset Group
"get off the treadmill "
303-668-1331
www.cranksetgroup.com

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Re: [emrat:5322] tiger 800 heat

Did you report Triumph winning the Daytona 200 this year on a 675R? Maybe I missed it...:-)

Bob

From: 'ikonoklass' via EMRAT

Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 12:44 PM

To: Triumph68T120R via EMRAT

Reply To: emrat@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [emrat:5319] tiger 800 heat

Rest assured, when Triumph wins an award, I will report it immediately. However, since Indian already won best cruiser and BMW best sport-tourer, Triumph may come up dry this year.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------

From: Triumph68T120R via EMRAT

Date:07/29/2014 5:13 PM (GMT-07:00)

To: emrat@googlegroups.com,emrat@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [emrat:5310] tiger 800 heat

Bob

From: Curtis Graves

Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 5:03 PM

To: emrat@googlegroups.com

Reply To: emrat@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [emrat:5309] tiger 800 heat

RT just won Best Sport Touring bike (Cycle World).

On Jul 29, 2014 12:29 PM, "Jjtmcd via EMRAT" <emrat@googlegroups.com> wrote:

The main reason I lusted after a BMW RT when I had my Triumph Trophy 900 was the heat. Triumph has had a tradition of ignoring rider thermal comfort of late. I remember Huc having to add thermal shields under his seat with one of the Sprints. So that was an "even at speed" heat issue. I stewed on the Trophy more times than I'd like to admit although that were more an issue when traffic slowed.
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Re: [emrat:5321] tiger 800 heat

I think this convo wins an award for most off topic from the origin posted message ;)

On Jul 30, 2014, at 12:44 PM, 'ikonoklass' via EMRAT <emrat@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Rest assured, when Triumph wins an award, I will report it immediately. However, since Indian already won best cruiser and BMW best sport-tourer, Triumph may come up dry this year.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: Triumph68T120R via EMRAT
Date:07/29/2014 5:13 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: emrat@googlegroups.com,emrat@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [emrat:5310] tiger 800 heat

Hmmmmm...I'm confused. I thought this was a Riders Association of Triumph Forum EM/RAT, sponsored by Erico Motorsports a Triumph dealer. Did something change that I'm not aware of? ‎Are we now sponsored by Denver BMW or Foothills? :-)

Bob

From: Curtis Graves
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 5:03 PM
To: emrat@googlegroups.com
Reply To: emrat@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [emrat:5309] tiger 800 heat

RT just won Best Sport Touring bike (Cycle World).

On Jul 29, 2014 12:29 PM, "Jjtmcd via EMRAT" <emrat@googlegroups.com> wrote:
The main reason I lusted after a BMW RT when I had my Triumph Trophy 900 was the heat. Triumph has had a tradition of ignoring rider thermal comfort of late. I remember Huc having to add thermal shields under his seat with one of the Sprints. So that was an "even at speed" heat issue. I stewed on the Trophy more times than I'd like to admit although that were more an issue when traffic slowed.

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Re: [emrat:5320] tiger 800 heat

I prefer "mercilessly."

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------

From: weverman@comcast.net

Date:07/30/2014 12:40 PM (GMT-07:00)

To: "Everman, Wayne"

Subject: Re: [emrat:5317] tiger 800 heat

We (EMRAT) proudly accept all brands of motorcycles to our meetings and rides, with the intent of trashing them verbally with equality to all (except Harleys, which we trash unmercifully!) Wayne E.

From: "Everman, Wayne" <emrat@googlegroups.com>
To: "Everman, Wayne" <emrat@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:04:54 AM
Subject: Re: [emrat:5315] tiger 800 heat

In a message dated 7/30/2014 8:43:15 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
emrat@googlegroups.com writes:

John J. McDonough, FMP
3to5 Facilitator
the Crankset Group
"get off the treadmill "
303-668-1331
www.cranksetgroup.com

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Re: [emrat:5319] tiger 800 heat

Rest assured, when Triumph wins an award, I will report it immediately. However, since Indian already won best cruiser and BMW best sport-tourer, Triumph may come up dry this year.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------

From: Triumph68T120R via EMRAT

Date:07/29/2014 5:13 PM (GMT-07:00)

To: emrat@googlegroups.com,emrat@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [emrat:5310] tiger 800 heat

Bob

From: Curtis Graves

Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 5:03 PM

To: emrat@googlegroups.com

Reply To: emrat@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [emrat:5309] tiger 800 heat

RT just won Best Sport Touring bike (Cycle World).

On Jul 29, 2014 12:29 PM, "Jjtmcd via EMRAT" <emrat@googlegroups.com> wrote:

The main reason I lusted after a BMW RT when I had my Triumph Trophy 900 was the heat. Triumph has had a tradition of ignoring rider thermal comfort of late. I remember Huc having to add thermal shields under his seat with one of the Sprints. So that was an "even at speed" heat issue. I stewed on the Trophy more times than I'd like to admit although that were more an issue when traffic slowed.
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RE: [emrat:5318] tiger 800 heat

Wait, Wayne, you will hurt Curtis' feelings!

I like to think of us as ecumenical, non-denominational . . .

Dan

From: emrat@googlegroups.com [mailto:emrat@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of weverman@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 12:40 PM
To: Everman, Wayne
Subject: Re: [emrat:5317] tiger 800 heat

We (EMRAT) proudly accept all brands of motorcycles to our meetings and rides, with the intent of trashing them verbally with equality to all (except Harleys, which we trash unmercifully!) Wayne E.

From: "Everman, Wayne" <emrat@googlegroups.com>
To: "Everman, Wayne" <emrat@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:04:54 AM
Subject: Re: [emrat:5315] tiger 800 heat

In a message dated 7/30/2014 8:43:15 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
emrat@googlegroups.com writes:

John J. McDonough, FMP
3to5 Facilitator
the Crankset Group
"get off the treadmill "
303-668-1331
www.cranksetgroup.com

</HTML>

Re: [emrat:5317] tiger 800 heat

We (EMRAT) proudly accept all brands of motorcycles to our meetings and rides, with the intent of trashing them verbally with equality to all (except Harleys, which we trash unmercifully!) Wayne E.

From: "Everman, Wayne" <emrat@googlegroups.com>
To: "Everman, Wayne" <emrat@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:04:54 AM
Subject: Re: [emrat:5315] tiger 800 heat

In a message dated 7/30/2014 8:43:15 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
emrat@googlegroups.com writes:

John J. McDonough, FMP
3to5 Facilitator
the Crankset Group
"get off the treadmill "
303-668-1331
www.cranksetgroup.com

</HTML>

Re: [emrat:5316] tiger 800 heat

Interesting to note that BMW's direct competition with the Triumph Tiger 800 XC uses a vertical 2-cylinder, transverse mounted, liquid-cooled motor with chain final drive. By the way, numerous BMW Airhead owners have referred to their bikes as ankle burners! Wayne E.

From: "Steve Smith" <shmitty74@gmail.com>
To: "Everman, Wayne" <emrat@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 4:08:23 PM
Subject: Re: [emrat:5308] tiger 800 heat

Horizontally is too wide. 90 degrees is better for cornering clearance. Some archaic Italian company comes to mind. :-)

Steve

On Jul 29, 2014 12:24 PM, "Curtis Graves" <ikonoklass@gmail.com> wrote:

Ural? Dnepr? ; )

On Jul 29, 2014 8:42 AM, "'Martin Albright' via EMRAT" <emrat@googlegroups.com> wrote:

My experience has been that any motorcycle with a water-cooled engine is going to FEEL hotter than a bike with an air-cooled engine.

I don't know if this is because the water cooling allows the engine to run at a higher temperature safely, or if it is because the fan blows through the radiator and then onto the rider's legs, but it's something I noticed on both my 2001 Thunderbird (triple) and also on my wife's Suzuki Intruder 800, which are the only water cooled bikes I've ridden regularly.

If I was to guess I'd say air-cooled engines probably get hotter but with no fan to blow that hot air across your legs, you don't feel it as much. Although on some of my older 4 cyl Japanese UJM bikes the engine would get very, very hot and I could feel it on my knees, especially in slow traffic.

I think the best way to keep an air cooled engine from getting too hot would be to have each cylinder in a separate case that sticks horizontally out to the side to maximize air flow around the cylinder.

Now, let me think a bit...what company is it that does that??

Martin

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On Sat, 7/26/14, Brian Weberg <bw26354@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: [emrat:5290] tiger 800 heat
To: "emrat@googlegroups.com" <emrat@googlegroups.com>
Date: Saturday, July 26, 2014, 2:22 PM

Hello all you
Tiger 800 and 800 XC riders out there. This morning I took
a test ride on an 800 and was loving it until about half
way through the ride when I began to feel like my right leg
was on fire. Lots of heat emanating from the triple.
Have any of you confronted this issue?
Thanks, Brian
W.

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