Re: [emrat:11148] New Rocket

Manwhile,Harley sales have declined more "severly" than anticipated!Interesting to see where this goes from here......

                       E-Steve

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From: 'Curtis Graves' via EMRAT <emrat@googlegroups.com>

Date: 12/20/18 4:53 PM (GMT-07:00)

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Subject: Re: [emrat:11147] New Rocket

Good point. Although, it might give them some street cred to actually build something sick. They're entering the adventure and street fighter segments--both mature markets--and I'm afraid they're going to half-ass it. 

My plan has been to eventually replace the Concours with a K1600GT, but if they really base a full-on tourer on this new platform ... Holyyy shittttt....

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On Thursday, December 20, 2018, 12:32 PM, Martin Richard <martinarmy1961@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't think Triumph is aiming at the same market as HD.  Even the MCN article on the beast says it's more likely aimed at the likes of the Ducati Diavel (and IMO the big Moto Guzzis).  Harley doesn't really compete in the space of the "big performance cruiser."  

The RIII is in a very small class of bikes that comprises a microscopic fraction of the MC market.  I guess you could call that class "Ginormous Muscle Cruiser."  

HD is about volume.  I don't think they'd have much interested in being just another fish in the tiny pond the RIII swims in.  For all the attention they get, I don't see bikes like this becoming the next major trend in motorcycling.  In terms of size, weight, price and overall utility, they represent an extreme fringe of motorcycling

HD may be more business savvy by trying to branch out into the "adventure bike" segment, since I think that part of the market is likely to grow (or even if it doesn't grow, it's not likely to shrink, either.)   Furthermore, if HD's "big adventure bike" is a success they can apply that formula to their 750cc and 500cc twins as well.  

Martin

On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 9:40 AM Curtis Graves <ikonoklass@gmail.com> wrote:

Are you guys seeing the scuttlebutt? For the second time this week, I opine that Harley needs to steal Triumph's product development team. 

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