Tuesday, 4 June 2019

Re: [emrat:11435] Three Flags Classic - planning and budgeting?

Martin,

From my experience, the 3FC is much more of an endurance ride than a sightseeing adventure. Sure, the routes take you through some of the finest scenery that the country has to offer but you don't really have the time to stop and soak it in. I have gone back to some of the places that I had to blast through later so that I could really check it out. 

If it's an epic adventure through the countryside where you're experiencing the local culture, food, and scenery, then the 3FC might be a disappointment. If on the other hand you're wanting to test yourself riding long days through twisting roads in any kind of weather, then the 3FC is the way to do that. I don't want to dissuade anyone from going on one, but I think that I would be remiss not to mention this point.

In my opinion, anyone planning to camp on a 3FC will likely regret that decision. The ride planners look for checkpoint locations that have enough lodging and restaurants to accommodate over 250 riders, but don't factor in camping areas. There might not be suitable camping locations nearby. Additionally, you just won't have much time to make and break camp every day when you're riding 10-14 hours a day. Just getting to my room and eating dinner is a victory, especially after the second or third day. Of course I could well be proven wrong, but I haven't noticed any other participants with camping gear yet. Anyone who can pull that off will definitely have my respect. 

Hopefully you'll find my input useful, but if not feel to ignore it. It's just free advice and worth every penny paid. Or not. 

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 11:15 Martin Richard <martinarmy1961@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for all the input.  As I suspected from my seat-of-the-pants calculations, lodging is by far the biggest cost.  Finding someone to double up with would drop that significantly. 

Actually, camping would drop it significantly too but I've slept on the ground enough in my life, thankyouverymuch, so I wouldn't seriously consider that. 

By my back-of-the-envelope calculations, I think unless you're doing triple digit speeds and running premium gas, fuel should be number 3 behind lodging and food. 

I'm still weighing doing the TFC or just coming up with my own "epic" ride for 2020. 

Martin

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 10:49 AM Steve Smith <shmitty74@gmail.com> wrote:
Less beer? What's the point of that? Better gas mileage? Were you going too slow?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 10:40 Norman Wright <lowrtax@gmail.com> wrote:
Less beer and better gas mileage

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019, 9:20 PM Steve Smith <shmitty74@gmail.com> wrote:
To detail the expenses a little bit more, I figure on 500 miles per day for fuel, a minimum of 2 meals paid out of pocket (3 if the motel doesn't have breakfast) and $50-75 for a room where you have a decent chance of seeing your bike the next morning. That's what I base my budget of $125/day or $2k for the trip if I have someone to share the room with. I usually have a couple of hundred left over but not always if I indulge myself with the incidentals. 

How Norm does it so cheaply I don't know. Then again its always a good idea to check the math when dealing with attorneys. 

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 19:49 Robert & Denise Wendl <radwendl@oneimage.com> wrote:
Martin,
 
Denise and I normally budget $300.00 a day for the two of us on our trips. Like Steve we treat our road trip like a vacation.
 
Looking back at my records, the SCMA yearly dues are $30.00 for a year and in 2017 the cost for the ride was $275.00.
 
Bob Wendl
 
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 5:09 PM
Subject: [emrat:11426] Three Flags Classic - planning and budgeting?
 
Hey, I want to throw some questions out there at the Three Flags Classic (TFC) veterans out there, since I know we have several in the group.  
 
How do you calculate your budget for that?  This has been a dream ride of mine for years and I just want to see if I can figure out a potential cost. 
 
Depending on where the ride starts and ends, I'd likely have to figure on a minimum of 3 riding days to the start and 3 riding days from the finish to get home. 
 
The ride itself starts on the Friday of Labor Day weekend, right?  And ends on Labor day, Monday, with the banquet Tuesday night?  So assuming that one has to check in on Thursday night and won't check out until Wednesday morning, that's 7 nights lodging for just the ride itself, yes? 
 
For those of you that don't mind sharing, do you recall what your expenses were?  Seems to me lodging is by far the biggest expense, followed by food and then fuel. 
 
Thanks for any info!
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "EMRAT" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to emrat+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/emrat/CABgUJv%2BSsHb1ESVuzjQnTxet-OxksHvEBHAoR21U5K-b%3DGPVDw%40mail.gmail.com.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "EMRAT" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to emrat+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/emrat/BB946435CB4B45D1BBA20986F2E399D5%40wendlHP.

--
Steve

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "EMRAT" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to emrat+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "EMRAT" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to emrat+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/emrat/CAF3_1981RUbk%3D3q%2BdP2%2BypQXT339c7eF%2BKageDVpH4sfQf6WOQ%40mail.gmail.com.

--
Steve

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "EMRAT" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to emrat+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "EMRAT" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to emrat+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/emrat/CABgUJvJiS88OJf8%3DywkvKMs%3Dtot8V%3DB-c2KD5THZ%3DxGYsODgEw%40mail.gmail.com.
--
Steve

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "EMRAT" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to emrat+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/emrat/CALG-%3D_VaBXwk3R5vLKJ-aHi17Q9_WU70jRxPGR5_xGHJhfUVnw%40mail.gmail.com.

0 comments:

Post a Comment