Wednesday, 29 November 2017

Re: [emrat:10342] Not-so-Safe Riding Places

"Using science to understand why motorcycling is so dangerous compared with driving?" 

Well, I'm no scientist but it seems to me the fact that car drivers have four wheels, air bags and a 3000+ lb steel cage around them and motorcycles do not might be a factor....

Does that count as "science?" 

I'm blind! 



Martin


On ‎Wednesday‎, ‎November‎ ‎29‎, ‎2017‎ ‎08‎:‎59‎:‎13‎ ‎AM, Steve Smith <shmitty74@gmail.com> wrote:


Here's a link to the source of the data and how it was interpreted. The National Motorcycle Institute is a nonprofit organization that is using science to understand why motorcycling is so dangerous compared with driving.


On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 08:43 Dan Pilcher <dpilcher@cochamber.com> wrote:

I once took a graduate-school course in multivariate linear regression analysis.

 

When I find the long-lost brain cells that hold information, I'll take a look at the article.

 

Dan

 

From: emrat@googlegroups.com [mailto:emrat@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Norman Wright
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 8:35 AM
To: Tim Green <emrat@googlegroups.com>
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here is the article.  It probably raises more questions than it answers.  The most dangerous place per them is HI where 1/3 of all fatal MV accidents involve a motorcycle.  I suppose the high number of scooters and limited parking mat contribute to that.

 

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Steve Smith <shmitty74@gmail.com> wrote:

I'd like a link to the article, or the study it refers to, if possible. I don't know how to interpret the information without the context of the data. 

 

On the surface I could surmise that the western states have more motorcycle tourists than either NJ or MA, or more bikers to drivers, or less training, or worse emergency response times, or road conditions, etc. I agree that situational awareness is vital to safety, but why less densely populated areas are less safe than high density areas seems counterintuitive on its face. 

 

Thanks for sending this info out Norm, my curiosity has been piqued. 

 

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 17:16 Norman Wright <lowrtax@gmail.com> wrote:

This month's BMW Owners' News has an interesting article on the safest states to ride in.  The article defines safety in terms on fatalities per million population so I suppose one could quibble with that stat, maybe it should be fatalities per MC  mileage for instance.

 

Be that as it may, Colorado ranks 43rd, meaning its in the top ten for least safe places to ride.  WY, SD and NV are right there with us.  The safest place to ride, New Jersey & Massachusetts with 7 MC fatalities per million people compared with CO's 18.6.  Oh, the worst place to ride, SC, my other home, 32 fatalities per M..  Time to move I guess.

 

What's the bottom line, keep your head on a swivel and watch out for the idiots in autos.  The article does not break down fatalities by bike vs car or bike only which would be another interesting measure.

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