Thursday 21 November 2013

Re: [emrat:3210] Digest for emrat@googlegroups.com - 3 Messages in 1 Topic

Steve and Curtis:  RE:  FD Failures:  Is that on ALL of the  R-series  bikes or is it primarily the GS models?  My thought is that it seems reasonable to me that exposing a shaftie to the rigors of off-road riding could lead to greater than normal failure rates (which may explain why BMW is one of only a few manufacturers to put a shaft on an ADV bike.)  I don't intend to ride on anything worse than a well graded dirt road which is why I'm looking at the R1100R/1150R rather than the GS bikes. 

From: Anthony Sean Donnelly <sean1881@gmail.com>
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Good points that Curtis and Smitty bring up regarding the final drive failures.  I know that there have been a couple of people in the RMMRC that have traded their BMW's for that reason. One had the FD fail twice.  That guy moved to a Triumph Explorer the other moved to a Kawasaki Concours. I am not sure of the model year of either bike that was having FD issues, but I do believe they were both post 2005.

- Sean




On Nov 21, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Curtis Graves <ikonoklass@gmail.com> wrote:

Martin, 

Steve is correct about final drive failure. It is documented extensively on advrider and elsewhere. However, I'm not sure the issue existed prior to 2005, so you'll want to look into that, too, if an 1150 is on your radar screen. Regarding maintenance, you would want to have it serviced by Pete Homan, not a dealer. With Pete, a major service on my GS was the same as on my Sprint RS, around $800. My GS has been flawless, BTW, which suggests that Smitty is not riding his properly. ; )


On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Steve Smith <shmitty74@gmail.com> wrote:
Martin,
 
I agree that the R-Rs are nice looking bikes, and if they are anything like the GS I have I'm sure that it will handle great. They look to be fantastic machines, and I've tread a few reviews that praised them highly. However, I feel that I must mention a couple of things that I have noticed during my 4 years of ownership that you may wish to consider.
 
First is that the cost of ownership is considerably costlier than with any of the other bikes I've owned. Parts and accessories along with maintenance are a fair bit higher than most bikes other than H-Ds. Cult status has something to do with that I suppose, but it exists just the same.
 
Second, and most bothersome to me, is the well documented final drive failure rate among these bikes. While there are plenty of them that have never had a problem, there are way more than there should be. My own BMW is showing signs of leakage at the rear drive, and it has only 32k on it. I haven't determined what the cause or repair will be yet, but it has me concerned. My Yamaha has over 65k and never leaked a drop. If you search the web for final drive failure stories, you'll find a ton of them. Not trying to scare you off of them, but you should be aware that it is not uncommon.
 
Whatever you decide to do I hope that you get a great bike that gives you a ton of memorable miles!
 
Steve S 

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