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On Monday, March 7, 2016, 4:52 PM, sean.korten@gmail.com <sean.korten@gmail.com> wrote:
This is one of my biggest fears, right behind getting sandwiched from behind and sandwiched from the side. Those are more easily avoided by simply being alert and always having an exit route. I've been in the oncoming vehicle situation a couple times and handled it the same way I would in a car; down shift and slow down, move as far to the right as possible (and always wear a helmet ffs). That's always been sufficient, thank the motorcycle gods, but the next step would be to launch into the ditch or grind the guard rail. I'd rather lose a leg than my life.---SeanOn Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Dan Pilcher <dpilcher@cochamber.com> wrote:Especially the four-carbureted 1200 Trophy and the three-carbureted 900 Trident, Wayne.
Dan
From: emrat@googlegroups.com [mailto:emrat@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of weverman@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 4:18 PM
To: Everman, Wayne
Subject: Re: [emrat:8417] Horrible Accident Last Saturday
His Lairdship (Earl of Hinckley); great, little traveled road for a short interurban blast to clear ones' cobwebs out! EWB
From: "Dan Pilcher" <dpilcher@cochamber.com>
To: emrat@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 12:02:04 PM
Subject: RE: [emrat:8414] Horrible Accident Last Saturday
On Saturday and Sunday, I exercised some of the herd, riding three times out to Bennet/Strasburg on Colorado 36, the two-lane highway north of I-70 and spent some time thinking about this issue. Here's what I came up with.
First, I normally ride in the left-hand track when I ride alone. So, I started moving to the right-hand track when an oncoming vehicle was about 100 yards away. That gave me several more feet of additional separation from the oncoming vehicle as it passed, which actually gave me a physical feeling of greater safety. And that felt good! (In a group ride, however, this would not be a good idea because the gap between my bike and a bike in the right-hand track would be too close for comfort.)
Second, flash your high beam if you see that the oncoming vehicle might be starting to drift into your lane or the vehicle is traveling erratically. If the driver is texting, perhaps a sober driver's peripheral vision will register your flashing headlight(s). If the driver is DUI, it might not make a difference.
Third, quickly slow down and downshift to third or fourth so you can sharply accelerate if you need to. You may have to swerve left or right, depending on what the vehicle does. I would rather go off into the ditch on the right at 40 mph than, say, 65 mph to 75 mph.
Dan
From: emrat@googlegroups.com [mailto:emrat@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of weverman@comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 6:56 PM
To: Everman, Wayne
Subject: Re: [emrat:8407] Horrible Accident Last Saturday
As crazy as it sounds, if I could keep my wits about me, I would cross traffic and head post haste for the LEFT shoulder of the road. Statistics show that a vehicle operators typical reaction is to overcorrect twice, which would have them going to the opposite direction of travel. Obviously, on a four lane road, your chances would be diminished.. Trying to "lay it down" in a situation like this is foolish, plus who of us is a professional dirt tracker that can do this?
EWB
From: "Brandon Hinds" <hinds169@gmail.com>
To: emrat@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 1:02:34 PM
Subject: Re: [emrat:8406] Horrible Accident Last Saturday
Dan you just about got it with long distance scanning. Only thing i would say is to have escape plans. Even if there isnt an oncoming car. And even if it come downs to hitting the deck. Id rather hit the deck instead of being a human cannon ball.
On Mar 4, 2016 4:00 PM, "Dan Pilcher" <dpilcher@cochamber.com> wrote:
I've often thought about what tactic to employ if I was riding down a two-lane highway at, say, 65 mph, and an oncoming vehicle started to drift into my lane.
My first precaution is to always try to be 100 percent alert and watching for a vehicle that I see—even sense actually—that might spell trouble.
One piece of advice that I came across is try to constantly scan at least 12 seconds up and down the open road, which would be about a quarter-mile, watching for potential problems long in advance.
Since the closing speed of the two vehicles would be 130 mph, there's clearly not much time to react if you wait too long.
We really only have two options: brake or swerve, but not both at the same time because that would likely result in a loss of traction and a crash.
Does anyone else have other ideas for the group on this issue?
Stay safe out there!
Dan Pilcher
Denver and the West
Affidavit: Parker woman was texting, drunk in crash that killed 2
Athina L. Munoz is accused of vehicular homicide, DUI and other charges
Posted: 02/29/2016 12:12:29 PM MST210 Comments | Updated: 4 days ago
Denver Post
Athina L. Munoz, 27 (Colorado State Patrol)
A Parker woman suspected of drunken driving in a Saturday crash that killed a motorcyclist and his passenger told authorities she was texting in the moments before drifting into oncoming traffic.
Athina L. Munoz, 27, had bloodshot, watery eyes, slurred speech and a strong smell of alcohol on her breath when she was interviewed by the Colorado State Patrol, according to an arrest affidavit.
"She admitted to consuming two glasses of wine," a state trooper wrote in the document.
DOCUMENT: Read Athina L. Munoz's arrest affidavit
The crash happened about 1:30 p.m. south of Franktown on Colorado 83 at North Russellville Road.
Brian Lehner, 58, of Parker, and his passenger, Jacquie Lehner, 56, were riding a 2014 maroon Harley Davidson, in the northbound lane of the highway when they were hit by Munoz's 1997 green Honda Accord, investigators say.
Another man riding a motorcycle behind the Lehners also sustained minor injuries in the crash.
According to the affidavit, Munoz "became distraught and was yelling out that she had just killed two people" while talking to investigators.
Munoz also admitted to smoking marijuana before the crash, the State Patrol says, and she failed tests to see if she was under the influence of drugs or alcohol.
"Munoz did not perform voluntary maneuvers as a sober person," the affidavit said.
Authorities say Munoz was checking a text message just before the wreck and that when she looked up "she was on the wrong side of the road and hit a motorcycle," the affidavit says.
Munoz faces allegations of vehicular homicide, DUI, driving while under the influence of alcohol or drugs, or both, and failing to present proof of insurance. Munoz has an arrest record that includes domestic violence and child abuse, negligence.
The Lehners were thrown from their motorcycle and died at the scene. They were not wearing helmets.
Jesse Paul: 303-954-1733, jpaul@denverpost.com or @JesseAPaul
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